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MUGEN NEWS - U.A.O. PROJECT
« on: January 19, 2014, 10:10:10 AM »

Hi dudes

a small but very important question: how to stay tuned about new releases?

years ago, i had a list of newsites to check everyday to be sure to got all relases but now, the majority of them are down

apart the mugen fighter's guild forums, what sites can you advise me?

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so we have here (my personnal reminder, lol):
http://mugenguild.com/forum/your-releases-older-mugen.309
http://mugenguild.com/forum/your-releases-1-0.359
http://www.infinitymugenteam.com/Forum_345/index.php?board=8.0
http://www.infinitymugenteam.com/Forum_345/index.php?board=65.0
http://www.infinitymugenteam.com/Forum_345/index.php?board=42.0
http://www.infinitymugenteam.com/Forum_345/index.php?board=88.0
http://www.infinitymugenteam.com/Forum_345/index.php?board=16.0
http://mugenfreeforall.com/index.php?/forum/32-news/
http://mugenfreeforall.com/index.php?/forum/33-releases/
http://mugenfreeforall.com/index.php?/forum/122-edits/
http://mugenfreeforall.com/index.php?/forum/25-screenpacks/
http://mugenfreeforall.com/index.php?/forum/71-full-games/
http://mugenfreeforall.com/forum/13-characters/
http://www.newagemugen.com/f12-mugen-1-1
https://qxmugen.com/resource/character
https://tweettunnel.com/mk90034551
https://twitter.com/hashtag/MUGEN%E6%9B%B4%E6%96%B0%E6%83%85%E5%A0%B1?src=hash
https://plus.google.com/108179190083455005609
https://cafe.naver.com/mugenrevolution
https://onedrive.live.com/?authkey=%21AEBGJEgByX8v7RU&id=4FE334FA93A06B3C%21105&cid=4FE334FA93A06B3C
https://plus.google.com/116310549251973341600
http://mugenarchive.com/forums/downloads.php?do=cat&id=1
http://tier-1.co/index.php
http://tier-1.co/index.php/board,5.0.html
http://tier-1.co/index.php/board,7.0.html

http://mugenchara.blog.shinobi.jp/
http://www.2diyer.com/forum.php?mod=forumdisplay&fid=14&page=1
http://www.mugeno.com/
http://www.2diyer.com/forum.php?mod=forumdisplay&fid=17
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Re: MUGEN NEWS
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2014, 11:18:26 AM »

Well in all honesty I personally think IMT news is the best one atm in terms of the amount of content. MFFA has slower news reported mostly by the staff that would go unseen by other forums. Those are the best. What I do is take from them both and find out about new stuff myself.  Unfortunately(and Fortunately lol) I quickly learned theres a lot of unreported stuff that has been getting released in smaller lesser known forums, through youtube, nico nico, and just random foreign website exclusive material since I came back to Mugen a few months ago.

So I would say Check up on IMT & MFFA. I personally find everything new myself through people and rechecking my databases daily to see if something new popped up. Maybe someone else can suggest something better though.
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Re: MUGEN NEWS
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2014, 02:37:59 PM »

I recommend 2diyer.
(about Japanese release.)
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Re: MUGEN NEWS
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2014, 04:06:53 PM »

thanks a lot for your advices my friend

i know that times have changed & that, now, ppl are using social networks for releasing their creations but... i now have a better idea of the situation ;)

maybe that we should think to open a true global mugen news site, like Sammas' one, years a ago...?

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oooooh shit, you were too right: i'm discovering tons of new stuff ....
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« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2014, 01:37:09 AM »

thanks a lot for your advices my friend

i know that times have changed & that, now, ppl are using social networks for releasing their creations but... i now have a better idea of the situation ;)

maybe that we should think to open a true global mugen news site, like Sammas' one, years a ago...?

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oooooh shit, you were too right: i'm discovering tons of new stuff ....

It wouldn't be a bad idea to open a site like that, in fact I was thinking of doing something like that on my own site. The only issue is that it is a lot of work for one person to consistently report accurate information. Also who do you mean by "we"?
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Re: MUGEN NEWS
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2014, 10:30:08 PM »

Currently, this is the best mugen site concept for sure...

&, yes, of course, this represents a lot of work

---> it would be great to gather a maximum of ppl to report news

but first, we need a structure for reporting  :P

does someone have an idea?

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« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2014, 02:25:47 AM »

Hello, Hello! My friends! :) :)

That's a good idea.
but Time is precious.
Check work is not automatable.
Therefore, we have to check.
The world of MUGEN is too large, like universe!

I thnik,
If you want walk, many cooperators will be required.

and

classific by country(or langage?)
You have to carry out staffs assignment according to density.
http://www.google.com/trends/explore?q=mugen#cat=0-8&q=mugen&cmpt=q

but!

Rule of Japan Local:
1. If the file is now available by creator, we should look for it by yourself.
2. We have to follow the distribution rule which the creator defined.

Therefore
A Japanese news forum does not exist!
Japanese people are not taught the direct link of a file!

I do not have an any idea about this problem.  :(
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« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2014, 04:12:00 AM »

Mud Jellyfish put it very said. Like he said, for a Global Mugen News site we need many collaborators and from different nationalities or that can speak a certain language. For example I also speak fluent Spanish and can easily find everything new that comes from multiple Spanish speaking forums. Regardless it's one of easiest languages to understand anyhow. Also if Hayonik would be interested, I'm pretty sure he speaks Portuguese which would be a very big help as well.

The big issue is with the Chinese and Korean releases. Some releases are very difficult to acquire(or impossible) to the non-korean speaking through cafe-naver. I've missed quite a few releases from this so far. Also as Mud Jellyfish said it would be difficult for him to put release news from Japan as he is not able to link directly. You should ask Phantom Blood if he would be Interested as he is one of the biggest news reporters on MFFA alongside V-Nix. V-Nix is a great collector of foreign mugen data, maybe you could get in touch with him as well. We would need some type of calling to legitimate and dedicated mugen data collectors.

Edit: Also by News on IMT and MFFA I meant these sections.
http://www.infinitymugenteam.com/Forum_345/index.php?board=16.0
http://mugenfreeforall.com/index.php?/forum/32-news/
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« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2014, 12:20:05 PM »

thanks scourgesplitter! ;D

yeah!
It is a difficult problem! :-\

For example:
http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.1894257
(Phantom Blood is well-informed person ;))

I fear a trouble.
Japanese people fear a trouble, too.
(Especially between friend)
maybe we called it "和(WA)".

I respect your work.
So, I wish a trouble does not occur with Japanese people.
It may cause fatal wound. (for our work)
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« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2014, 09:37:24 PM »

Dear friend,

for answering by order:
- Yes, time is a problem but it already was the case years ago, when i "retired" ---> it's hard but possible, for example by splitting the tasks by volunteer
- Various languages used by creators don't help but, once again, this isn't impossible to do with
- Stats about searches are very impressive.  The results may have been caused by the appearance of new creation tools ---> the number of creations raised massively ----> people find more easily a decent conversion of a lot of datas ---> the need of news decreased with years
- "Japanese" rules do already exist years ago & there wasn't any problem: it's possible to report a news & to provide non direct links...
- About Chinese and Korean releases... i'm not used with them because they were rare 3 years ago (only a few korean ones if i'm correct) ---> chinese is more difficult for me.  But, before anything else: don't they have their own newssites or forums?
- The idea of getting in touch with well-known members, for legitimating our action, is excellent! I can also ask to Nunor, who's a friend of mine ;) . I've also met the current webmaster of MFFA... but for "legitimating" something, i'm not sure that he's the one  ;D
- hereabove reminder updated: thanks!
- about the unauthorized updates: here again, no problem ---> either we don't report'em at all or we report it in a private place for us :)

the first question is still "what about the needed structure (website/forum) ?"

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« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2014, 09:11:55 AM »

dear friends,

i'm back from my bed with an idea...

why couldn't we use http://web.archive.org/web/20070306071656/http://www.geocities.com/oolongv2002/MUGENbookmarks.htm? as base & main project?

i mean, from this base, we could list all
- active sites
- active forum
- dead sites & forum, with direct link to the archived site...

& everytime an author releases something, we put his site on the top of the list  ;D

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« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2014, 09:58:58 AM »

Thats actually a very interesting idea but, not all authors have their own websites like I stated earlier. It would be a very nice website database that would serve a double purpose for news. Matter of fact, Mugenguild has a very large Creator website database (http://network.mugenguild.com/guild/creators.html) but, this one could be 100x better as we would also be able to list much more dead sites/forums which would serve a great purpose for people who want to file hunt.

Thinking about the site structure, Sammas just used a regular Freewebs site to do his job very efficiently. A forum would be a little simpler to correct mistakes on or add content to. In order to decide the structure we need to think about how maybe members can contribute to the news on the spot or if just have a system where multiple people send information to one person organizes it and lists it all without errors. These are the 2 systems I'm thinking about.

I don't mind a forum but, in my personal opinion I would prefer a nice website. You clearly have more experience with html & CSS than me Electrocaid since you put together Fanatic Mugen & Mugen Museum. Infact the news reporting you were doing on Mugen Museum with Dadou & Marvin was nice itself. If you could do something where specific members are able to edit the page to add news that would be great. Unfortunately though, with a regular website you would still be forced to provide a forum regardless because if by chance people want to post their own releases there.
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« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2014, 03:56:54 PM »

This topic is a little too difficult for me!  :-\

How to say....  ???
I can only say this.
Nothing is as important as health!

It is almost time to sleep.
Good night friends!  :)
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« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2014, 07:54:33 PM »

hahaha for the very philosophical comment of Mud Jellyfish

concerning scourgesplitter's comment's:
- Yes, of course, a website would be better than a forum
- but No, i'm not used at all with site coding: Fanatic Mugen has been created by Dadou if i'm correct (& maybe with the help of Pegasus Husky but surely not mine...)

---> that's still our main problem  ;D

(nb: i can't decently ask to Scal to care about this:  he's already very busy (partly because of me.... :-X ) )

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« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2014, 06:40:38 AM »

First and foremost, Hello.  :)

Personally I'm fond of forums since as stated, it'd help fix mistakes and add content. However, a nice site at least on the front would be best for something like this. I'm sure there are plenty of web templates, but perhaps someone with html/css knowledge would be helpful with that idea.

Assuming everything goes well, what sort of format would news be archived in? Just date? Categories? How in-depth would the categories be? The basics like chars,stages,lifebars,screenpacks? or more stuff like edits,fullgames,color separation patches, soundpatches, etc?

Scourge, you also mentioned members contributing(well finding a way to have them contribute); I think having just anyone add stuff will become problematic due to misinformation or improper formatting. There would need to be someone assigned to adding those things, but not just ONE person. It'd be time consuming, and just a pain after a while having one person do it. It' also good to keep in mind that personal lives and worldly troubles do happen and that's when that one person could face problems.

I know I'm sorta repeating certain things but wanted to add my input on this.

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